This is the history of comments and responses to comments by me and others concerning the Execution of Troy Anthony Davis in Georgia.This MZTRUTHBTOLD was the instigation of the revealing attitudes,but not the cause or blame for above article title,just a small part of the belief in their uniqueness.
MZTRUTHBTOLD
I AM SO SICK OF THIS DELAY I USED TO LIVE IN SAVANNAH. I'M A BLACK WOMAN AND YES I USED TO WORK WITH THIS MAN'S MOTHER. HE WAS NOTHING BUT A MENACE TO SOCIETY, A THUG, DRUG DEALER, ETC., ,WHO COULD DO NO WRONG IN HIS MOTHER OR SISTER'S EYES. MARK MCPHAIL WAS MY FRIEND A VERY DEAR FRIEND AND I FIND ALL OF THIS APPALLING. THE MAN SHOT MARK IN THE CHEST, AND STOOD OVER HIM AND ASKED HIM IF HE LOVED JESUS AND MARK SAID YES AND THAT PUNK SAID SAY YOUR PRAYERS AND SHOT HIM IN THE FACE. WHY THESE WITNESSES ARE RECANTING THEIR STORY IS BEYOND ME. ALL I KNOW IS GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH, WHAT'S DONE IN THE DARK WILL ALWAYS COME TO LIGHT. I WASN'T A WITNESS BUT THE TALK ABOUT WHAT HE DID WAS ALL OVER SAVANNAH. AND THEN HIS MOTHER HELPED HIM GET OUT OF SAVANNAH BY DRESSING HIM UP AS A WOMAN. GO FIGURE.
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!#13 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:48 PM CDT
rdixiesunrise61
Has his mother been brought up on charges for harboring a fugitive? she should be.
Thanks for your side of the story. I hope he gets what he deserves.
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!#13.1 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:23 AM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
I would be more inclined to believe that what you related in your "statement' was not slanderous gossip ,if not just an outright lie if you had filled out your Bio,seeded some articles,voted on other articles since the last/only time or at least commented on them.This will be sent to the email you provided that you used to sign on to newsvine.traceable.At least respond by commenting on your comment and stating where you worked with troy's mother...I suspect you are what we newsviners call a troll.As you should now know...troy was granted a stay of execution by no other than the US Supreme Court who were all in recess and convened a special hearing to grant this stay.Do you not know that you will be also held accountable for your maliciousness and lies?The Almighty is well aware of the hate you spout and the time is near.I just pray that you at least make an attempt to make better informed opinions if this the case.Especially you rdixiesunrise61,promoting this type of malfeasance.He was really your friend? Then why do you not want real justice for who killed him?Good friend you are...with friends like you who needs enemies?Please respond...I sent you an email through the "contact author" link,though you are no author.
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!#13.2 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:28 PM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
I would be more inclined to believe that what you related in your "statement' was not slanderous gossip ,if not just an outright lie if you had filled out your Bio,put a avatar,seeded some articles,voted on other articles since the last/only time or at least commented on them since you signed up to newsvine 9/08.This will be sent to the email you provided that you used to sign on to newsvine.traceable.At least respond by commenting on your comment and stating where you worked with troy's mother...I suspect you are what we newsviners call a troll.As you should now know...troy was granted a stay of execution by no other than the US Supreme Court who were all in recess and convened a special hearing to grant this stay.Do you not know that you will be also held accountable for your maliciousness and lies?The Almighty is well aware of the hate you spout and the time is near.I just pray that you at least make an attempt to make better informed opinions if this the case.
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!#13.3 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:30 PM CDT
MZTRUTHBTOLD
I USED TO LIVE IN SAVANNAH AND I BEG TO DIFFER, WE ARE NOT TROY DAVIS THAT MAN WAS A MENACE, A BULLY, A THEIF, A DRUG DEALER AND THUG WHO COULD DO NO WRONG IN HIS MOTHER'S EYES. AND YES I AM A BLACK WOMAN AND I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED THIS MESS HAS GONE TOO FAR. MARK MCCPHAIL WAS MY FRIEND, MY BUDDY. TROY DID IT AND WILL ANSWER TO GOD NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE COURTS UPHOLD AND GIVE HIM A STAY. HIS MOTHER HELPED HIM GET OUT OF SAVANNAH AFTER HE KILLED MARK BY DRESSING HIM UP AS A WOMAN. BUT U WON'T SEE THAT ON THE NEWS. YOU ALSO WON'T HEAR HOW THE REST OF SAVANNAH HEARD HOW TROY ASKED MARK AFTER HE SHOT HIM IN THE CHEST IF HE LOVED JESUS AND WHEN MARK SAID YES HE SAID GOOD CAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT TO MEET HIM AND SHOT HIM IN HIS FACE. HIS MOTHER AND SISTER PUT HIM UP ON A PEDESTAL AND HE KNOWS HE WAS WRONG.I WASN'T A WITNESS BUT THAT WAS THE WORD ON THE STREET BACK THEN AND RECANTED BY THE WITNESSESS. RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG, HE WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS. I AM PISSED. I FEEL SORRY FOR HIS FAMILY BUT NOT FOR HIM.
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!#14 - Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:01 PM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
"I WASN'T A WITNESS BUT THAT WAS THE WORD ON THE STREET BACK THEN
Did you also know Troy?It seems you are relating slanderous gossip.."
Tell me this is a lie...
"Troy was waiting to go into the Marine Corps. He had transferred to night school where he completed his high school education in order to take care of my sister who was paralyzed from the neck down. So he worked during the day and took care of my sister while my mom was working; did her hair, catheterized her, because she couldn't do anything for herself."
Were you hoodwinked?
!#14.1 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:52 PM CDT
nearing
MZTRUTHBTOLD,
I feel sorry for you that you feel sorry for people who are happily awaiting the death of another human being.
Put aside the glaring inconsistencies in the trial and that Troy could very well be an innocent man.
Revenge does not bring peace to anyone. If you wish for and work towards the killing of a man your mind is constantly filled with negative thoughts. This is not good for you and not good for those around you.
The law of cause and effect will not be on your side if you are a revengeful person.
Only compassion and forgiveness can set the family of a murder victim free.
!#14.2 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:36 PM CDT
nearing
"I AM SO SICK OF THIS DELAY...
I KNOW IS GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH "
What is with so-called christians and godly-people routing for a man to be killed?
Am I crazy or isn't one of the commandments Thou Shall Not Kill? There is no except there either.
!#24.1 - Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
jbdaad
I`m with you nearing.
!#24.2 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
Ms CYPRAH
Am I crazy or isn't one of the commandments Thou Shall Not Kill? There is no except there either.
One would have thought so, nearing. As plain as daylight. but I guess religious people always interpret their holy books to suit themselves!! :o(
!#24.3 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
Miss Dev
I love when I get to whip this out.
!#24.4 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:45 PM CDT
Ms CYPRAH
Great one! LOL
!#24.5 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:02 PM CDT
KyanaBelle
Now, now Ladies...let's not throw out the babies with the bathwater. You can't judge everyone of faith by the actions of the slim percentages that are loud igmoes.
I love when I get to whip this out.
And this is F%&$ing hysterical! LOL!
!#24.6 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:18 PM CDT
Danny McGee
"Am I crazy or isn't one of the commandments Thou Shall Not Kill? There is no except there either."
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but actually, there is an "except." Once Israel was established after Moses' people finished their trek through the desert, a more complete set of laws and punishments was set up by God in Leviticus, Dueteronomy, etc., and they included the death penalty for...well, just about anything. Idolatry, adultery, blasphemy, heresy, homosexuality, even cursing one's parents are all punishable by death according to the old Law. Modern day Christians have softened it up a lot, but there's definitely a lot of Biblical precedent for State-sanctioned execution.
!#24.7 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:26 PM CDT
nearing
So, the Commandments were re-written? So is that to say that god was lying or just kidding the first time he said it?
How do these 'christians' reconcile that with what Jesus said in Matthew 25?
How do they reconcile all of the contradictions in the bible?
Seems a pretty good reason to shun religion, imo.
!#24.8 - Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:47 PM CDT
Danny McGee
"So, the Commandments were re-written? So is that to say that god was lying or just kidding the first time he said it?"
Not really rewritten...more like expounded upon. What started as a really, really general moral code turned into a much more thorough set of laws, statutes and punishments.
How do these 'christians' reconcile that with what Jesus said in Matthew 25?
There are three separate parables in this chapter...which verse/verses are you talking about?
How do they reconcile all of the contradictions in the bible?
Err...cough.... Maybe this isn't the best thread to discuss this, all things considered. :)
!#24.9 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:38 AM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
Bull...
"a more complete set of laws and punishments was set up by God in Leviticus, Dueteronomy, etc., and they included the death penalty for"
These new laws were a suggestion by good ol Baal worshipper,jethro the high priest of Midian,the high priest of Baal at a the request of himself to Moses.Deceiving Moses,Exodus 18...13 The next day Moses sat in judgment for the people, who waited about him from morning until evening. 14 When his father-in-law saw all that he was doing for the people, he inquired, "What sort of thing is this that you are doing for the people? Why do you sit alone while all the people have to stand about you from morning till evening?" 15 Moses answered his father-in-law, "The people come to me to consult God. 16 Whenever they have a disagreement, they come to me to have me settle the matter between them and make known to them God's decisions and regulations." 17 "You are not acting wisely," his father-in-law replied.
God does not contradict Himself...in fact he states..."You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you ...
!#24.10 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:08 PM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
And this is one of the better threads to discuss this considering we are writing about the death penalty...which goes against one of the MAJOR commandments due to distortions,ignorance,hardness of heart,mistranslations,agendas and motives. "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you ... This was given right after Moses was given the Commandments. deuteronomy 1 "Now, Israel, hear the statutes and decrees which I am teaching you to observe, that you may live, and may enter in and take possession of the land which the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you. And many of the "New" laws were prescribed by these very unwise ,macho Judges that were hand selected with a little help from the father -in -law of moses ,jethro ,the High priest of Midian...yes, what "god" did he worship before moses received the duty that he was imposed .Jethro never repents or breaks his vow to serve Baal...he was the high priest!
Here proof of the contempt for women these people had even for women who had been raped... This is what you must do when a man has sexual intercourse with a virgin who is engaged to another man. If this happens in a city, take them to the gate of the city and stone them to death. The girl must die because she was in a city and didn't scream for help. The man must die because he had sex with another man's wife. You must get rid of this evil.
!#24.11 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:53 PM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
Sorry for a few posts...we need to combat this death Penalty with what they profess to be their basis ...biblical distortions and editing....Don't forget Jethro is the high priest of Baal. He never repents and rejects his god. There is no statement that he accepts Jehovah as his god. Even Satan refers to God as God he just never submits to God as his God. Jethro is also a "Kenite", a descendant of Cain .
Judges 1:16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, ...
Once Moses had appointed hundreds of judges as Jethro had instructed they were helpless. All these judges and not a single page of laws to enforce. The only thing left out of the Biblical account is the part where all these judges say "Well, what do we do now? Moses we need LAWS!"
I did not write this or claim that it is 100% accurate...but pretty close.
Judges1:16 2 The descendants of the Kenite, Moses' father-in-law, came up with the Judahites from the city of palms to the desert at Arad (which is in the Negeb). But they later left and settled among the Amalekites. 17 Judah then went with his brother Simeon, and they defeated the Canaanites who dwelt in Zephath. After having doomed the city to destruction, they renamed it Hormah.
Now also read the footnotes and get a good solid foundation on education to combat this obscene, evil Death Penalty.Fight fire with Fire.
!#24.12 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:15 PM CDT
vas
How about you guys seed or write an article about the Biblical justification or condemnation of the death penalty, and move this there?
!#24.13 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:21 PM CDT
Rhiannon1774
AMEN!!!
!#24.14 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
vas
Oh, and TL3... your comments where you turn whole paragraphs into links are hard on the eyes. And LOUD. Would you mind toning them down a bit? Maybe I'm getting old, so please indulge me ;)
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!#24.15 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:34 PM CDT
KyanaBelle
I agree - please. Debates of this nature can be very divisive and we have a real nice "team work" feeling going on here. Let's not mess it up. Respect everyone's right to their own beliefs. It's not necessary to dissect it.
!#24.16 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:37 PM CDT
Danny McGee
Teodoro: I'll respond to this with an article on my column sometime today and post a link back here when I'm finished. :) 0
!#24.17 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:16 AM CDT
Teodoro Leon 3
You know what? I'm tired of your crap and self edification. I responded to a comment with links to verify " Your" truths.These were very relevant as to why Troy, a black man,is on Death Row.I'll do you all a favor by respecting your "beliefs" ,as distorted and indoctrinated as they are...I'll never respond, need to look at your "articles".Why don't you slap yourself on your backs...give yourselves a RAV?!!But , I would suggest to you all that you really educate yourselves as to how you all have been greatly deceived,by your own ignorance,arrogance and closed -minded-ness.Really educate yourselves.Just one last "quote"..."the blind leading the blind shall both fall..."I've had enough of your belittlement and ridicule.And please delete my comments...as "worthless and inflammatory" as they are...I've copied and pasted them to my other sites.
!#24.18 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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